dock98 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Opera files complaint — an open letter to the Web communityOver the years I have been an active participant in the ongoing fight for open and interoperable Web standards. I have always opposed those who would force proprietary technologies where open alternatives, often superior, exist. From 1994 to 1999, I worked at CERN and W3C to help make sure there were good specifications for the Web. In 1999, I joined Opera to make sure there was at least one browser that implemented those specifications correctly. We have worked hard to do that. Unfortunately Microsoft's Internet Explorer, the biggest browser of all, did not.Today we have taken a stand. Opera has filed a formal complaint with the European Commission to force Microsoft to support open Web standards in its Web browser, Internet Explorer. We believe that Microsoft has harmed Web standards by refusing to support them; Microsoft often participates in creating Web standards, promoting them, and even promising to implement them. Despite their talent, however, they refuse to support Web standards correctly. For example, Internet Explorer is the only modern Web browser that does not support Acid2.Opera has also requested that Microsoft frees Internet Explorer from the Windows platform. We feel that they have used their market dominating position to limit a genuine choice of browsers on the Web for their own commercial gain.The time for action is now. The Web browser is the most important application for most of us. Developers and designers are creating more powerful Web sites and applications. But because Internet Explorer doesn't implement open and fully-developed Web standards, the work is hard and frustrating. Web designers are forced to spend time working around IE bugs rather than doing what inspires them. We seek no money from Microsoft. We would rather see Microsoft put their considerable talent and resources to work for the Web community.To those of you who build and shape the sites and services we use everyday — and who will create those in the future — I ask for your support. You will be the ones who ultimately benefit by having a Web that works seamlessly and effortlessly across devices, browsers and is equally open to everyone. That new day is just over the horizon, and by working together, we will awaken to that dawn.Thank you.Håkon Wium LieChief Technology Officer, Opera Software2007-12-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loufier Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Anyone who still uses Internet Explorer either doesnt know any better or is a moron.. i ditched internet explorer years and years ago... Firefox FTW :).. ive used it since its early beta versions.. 0.4 or something... b4 it went 1.0 even ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoKz Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 FireFox i use to use IE and think FireFox was lame... but until you try it its all good :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dock98 Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Anyone who still uses Internet Explorer either doesnt know any better or is a moron.. i ditched internet explorer years and years ago... Firefox FTW :D.. ive used it since its early beta versions.. 0.4 or something... b4 it went 1.0 even :DFireFox i use to use IE and think FireFox was lame... but until you try it its all good :)i have used firefox for a long time.anybody tried sea monkey? i like that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyo Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I'm using Opera for day-to-day stuff-browsing, and I'm using Opera 9.50 from the 1st alpha :) I also use Firefox and IE but for specialized stuff. I'd like Firefox more if it'd come with a mail client, I can't imagine using webmail again or having to open a separate app for mail (Outlook or Thunderbird). The Firefox extensions are COOL and I made it act just like my Opera does - gestures&stuff - so I browse very quickly with it. Maxthon has potential too. I'm glad Opera came with this manifest, I'm really tired of having installed 3-4 apps only to see if my sites are rendering ok on all. The standards are out there, all we have to do is respect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiWan Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I'm using Opera for day-to-day stuff-browsing, and I'm using Opera 9.50 from the 1st alpha :) I also use Firefox and IE but for specialized stuff. I'd like Firefox more if it'd come with a mail client, I can't imagine using webmail again or having to open a separate app for mail (Outlook or Thunderbird). The Firefox extensions are COOL and I made it act just like my Opera does - gestures&stuff - so I browse very quickly with it. Maxthon has potential too. I'm glad Opera came with this manifest, I'm really tired of having installed 3-4 apps only to see if my sites are rendering ok on all. The standards are out there, all we have to do is respect them.have you tried seamonkry. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to develop the SeaMonkey all-in-one internet application suite (see below). Such a software suite was previously made popular by Netscape and Mozilla, and the SeaMonkey project continues to develop and deliver high-quality updates to this concept. Containing an Internet browser, email & newsgroup client, HTML editor, IRC chat and web development tools, SeaMonkey is sure to appeal to advanced users, web developers and corporate users.powered by Mozilla Under the hood, SeaMonkey uses much of the same Mozilla source code which powers such successful siblings as Firefox, Thunderbird, Camino, Sunbird and Miro. Legal backing is provided by the Mozilla Foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyo Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 It's very cool and I installed it on some of my clients computers but for me it's slower then Opera and eats more resources for the same job. Too bad, as Firefox seem to be very fast (that if you don't install many addons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eBait Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Used FireFox since 0.6 till 2.0, then went Opera, and It's just like a mac, you never go back :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macoland Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I love Opera and have been using it for a long time. For the rare cases that a site doesn't work properly I use IE or Firefox. SO many features of Opera a great, I love the one letter address bar search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilJaden Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I've been using Opera since the 6.0 series when IE 6.0 came out along with Windows XP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_timeline and i've become an true believer in Opera ever since . In thiose times whenver i needed Activex Suport i used Maxton back then it was named MyIE2 http://www.maxthon.com/ but when Internet Explorer 7.0 came out gave up maxthon , since there is a big differnce between IE 6.0 and 7.0 and things do matter .If there is a browser a i never enjoyded ( even on linux platforms ) is Firefox which in my humble opinion doesn't deserve the credit people tend tot give to this browser , it's just the weakeast of them all ( Opera IE ) and the on thing that you should credit are Firefox extensions not the browser . Firefox still has long way to go when looking at the new 3.0 series compared to opera and ie 7.0 and still there will be fanatics who promote just for the sake of promoting . Firefox isn't better than IE 7.0 but there is a thing called follow the others if they say it's better then it must be like that many people just don't put many things in to consideration they go by the flow . Just pay atention to how things realy are http://www.firefoxmyths.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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