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    Ex-Microsoft veteran calls out Windows 11's "comically bad" performance, 'unfinished' state

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    One of the biggest gripes about Windows 11 that users have had is the stringent system requirements Microsoft introduced. The company reasoned that it had to do with improving the OS security, though, this does not mean that your system is entirely safe as even the firmware maker's logo can pose a threat, and the mandatory requirements like Secure Boot are of no use.

     

    Since the officially supported processors were fairly modern, people were generally expecting decent performance out of their Windows 11 PCs. Although an SSD is not a requirement, most systems have one nowadays; and you can not blame the users' expectations here either as Microsoft itself had claimed that's what Windows 11 was designed to do.

     

    However, despite all this, users have continued to complain about how their Windows PC just does not feel fast enough even on relatively powerful systems. As such, many have resorted to make the switch to Linux, which is receiving a massive AES encryption performance boost, or using tweaked Windows 11 versions like AtlasOS.

     

    Former Microsoft engineer Andy Young is one of those who have noticed the slow and laggy nature of Windows 11 and decided to call out the Redmond giant. Young remarks he has a $1600 Intel Core i9 PC with 128 GB system memory, and yet the Start menu's performance is "comically bad."

     

    Young later clarified that he does not hate Windows as he had helped build parts of it during his time at the company. However, he feels Windows 11 in its current state is unfinished.

     

    One of the reasons for such performance may have to do with the ads and promotions Windows 11 has via its Recommended section. The company is currently contemplating adding a dedicated button for that.

     

    It is hard to say at this point if the upcoming version, 24H2, will be any better. The Insider builds still exhibit performance issues as highlighted (below) by Windows Insider and enthusiast Albacore, even though it apparently is part of the version 24H2 RTM branch.

     

    Interestingly enough, users and enthusiasts have found ways to fix such performance problems with simple tweaks, and sometimes even a bug has helped boost the performance. Meanwhile, a Registry tweak can aid in making the Windows 11 File Explorer load large files quicker.

     

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    spudboy

    All likely to be caused by the users setup. i5 2500k here and haven't had any issues with the start menu at all. These "professionals" are always over-exaggerating just to have something to complain about and for views. As stated in the article a lot of things have fixes and/or a simple setting they didn't set properly. But rather than blaming themselves for not being the Windows genius they thought they were,... you know.... MUST be Windows!!!

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    coopers

    I like Win7 much better. Even win 10 is better than win 11.

    But isn't that MS rule?  One generation good then next one is bad. 

    win xp good

    win vista bad

    win 7 good

    win 8 bad

    win 10 good

    win 11 bad

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    18 hours ago, coopers said:

    I like Win7 much better. Even win 10 is better than win 11.

    But isn't that MS rule?  One generation good then next one is bad. 

    win xp good

    win vista bad

    win 7 good

    win 8 bad

    win 10 good

    win 11 bad

    I'll take Win 11 over any other version. Any day, hands down.

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    On 4/12/2024 at 8:56 AM, spudboy said:

    I'll take Win 11 over any other version. Any day, hands down.

    win11 sucks, it can't even move the taskbar to the right side of the screen. 

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    On 8/31/2024 at 12:16 PM, coopers said:

    win11 sucks, it can't even move the taskbar to the right side of the screen. 

    That's your primary reasoning for why Win11 sucks? 🤣🤣🤣 

     

    Not to mention, outside of little to no one even wanting it on the right of their screen, there literally is an easy way to move it to the right.

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    2 hours ago, spudboy said:

    That's your primary reasoning for why Win11 sucks? 🤣🤣🤣 

     

    Not to mention, outside of little to no one even wanting it on the right of their screen, there literally is an easy way to move it to the right.

    Well, I said "it can't even...", which means I just cited it as an example. 

    Lots of people want to move the taskbar around besides the bottom left and bottom center.

    And, what is an easy way to move it to the right?  Installing explorer patch or startallback is what I know.   Why did microsoft change the way it was in the first place?  

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    2 hours ago, coopers said:

    Lots of people want to move the taskbar around besides the bottom left and bottom center.

    Like me. Sat here with a widescreen monitor that was pretty much forced on us all by the display industry, with a vertical taskbar on the left to use up the surplus horizontal space and leave the scarce vertical space for applications.

     

    I managed to get a vertical taskbar replacement working mostly OK on 11 in a VM (was missing some of my essentials I've used for years and that work perfectly in w10's vertical bar), but the bottom taskbar is harder to just kill. It might well be the thing that finally sees me off to Linux when I have no choice but to abandon w10. There's nothing I do any more that either isn't available on Linux, or I could live without or run in a VM. Or have a PC that dual boots for the occasional time I need to be reminded what is good for me by the data-brokers and advertisement company formerly known as OS makers, Microsoft.

     

    Edit you have to hand it to MS for pretending a problem doesn't exist... the number of users on the MS groups asking for a taskbar on the left (meaning vertical, obviously) and MS reps insisting it is easy... to align the icons the the left on the bottom bar. Completely ignoring what they all know is really meant.

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    On 9/6/2024 at 11:33 AM, coopers said:

    Lots of people want to move the taskbar around besides the bottom left and bottom center.

    In the grand scheme of things, no, lots of people do not want to do that. That number of people is incredibly small vs the number of people who don't care.

     

    On 9/6/2024 at 2:21 PM, Mutton said:

    Like me. Sat here with a widescreen monitor that was pretty much forced on us all by the display industry, with a vertical taskbar on the left to use up the surplus horizontal space and leave the scarce vertical space for applications.

     

    the number of users on the MS groups asking for a taskbar on the left....

    Use the auto hide taskbar feature and you won't lose that whopping 1/4 inch of screen space it takes up. LOL!

     

    "the number of users on the MS groups asking for a taskbar on the left...." is very small in comparison to those who aren't.

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    5 hours ago, spudboy said:

    In the grand scheme of things, no, lots of people do not want to do that. That number of people is incredibly small vs the number of people who don't care.

    well, it's not because they don't care.  It's because most of them don't know that they can move taskbar around :-)

    Most people at work just take the computer as is from IT group. 

    If you tell them they can do that, they will.  Like two of my coworkers are using Dell 34 inch widescreen monitor, they want to put taskbar on vertical side. 

     

    It's like old version of Excel, there is a split line at the right end of scroll bar.  You can use mouse to hold it and do the split to any place you want. In the new version it was eliminated so if people have never seen that function before, of course they will not complain. But if you started using excel from v5, you will complain why they took out that convenient function. 

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    On 9/10/2024 at 10:56 AM, coopers said:

    well, it's not because they don't care.  It's because most of them don't know that they can move taskbar around :-)

    Most people at work just take the computer as is from IT group. 

    If you tell them they can do that, they will.  Like two of my coworkers are using Dell 34 inch widescreen monitor, they want to put taskbar on vertical side. 

    I don't agree that most people would do it even if you told them. I feel the number is still very, very, very small in comparison. For example... TWO of your coworkers. ;)  Agree to disagree. Imo the number of people that would change the taskbar position after being told they can is incredibly small.

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