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  • People With Extreme Wealth Should Give It Away—or Be Penalized

    Karlston

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    The gap between the ultra-rich minority and the vast majority has never been greater. But a wave of activist millionaires is asking for higher taxes.

    In 2024, wealth concentration rose to an all-time high. According to Forbes’ Billionaires List, not only are there more billionaires than ever—2,781—but those billionaires are also richer than ever, with an aggregate worth of $14.2 trillion. This is a trend that looks set to continue unabated. A recent report from the financial data company Altrata estimated that about 1.2 million individuals who are worth more than $5 million will pass on a collective wealth of almost $31 trillion over the next decade.

     

    Discontentment and concern over the consequences of extreme wealth in our society is growing. Senator Bernie Sanders, for instance, stated that the “obscene level of income and wealth inequality in America is a profoundly moral issue.” In a joint op-ed for CNN in 2023, Democratic congresswoman Barbara Lee and Disney heiress Abigail Disney wrote that “extreme wealth inequality is a threat to our economy and democracy.” In 2024, when the board of Tesla put to vote a $56 billion pay package for Elon Musk, some major shareholders voted against it, declaring that such a compensation level was “absurd” and “ridiculous.”

     

    In 2025, the fight against rising wealth inequality will be high on the political agenda. In July 2024, the G20—the world’s 20 biggest economies—agreed to work on a proposal by Brazil to introduce a new global “billionaire tax” that would levy a 2 percent tax on assets worth more than $1 billion. This would raise an estimated $250 billion a year. While this specific proposal was not endorsed in the Rio declaration, the G20 countries agreed that the super rich should be taxed more.

     

    Progressive politicians won’t be the only ones trying to address this problem. In 2025, millionaires themselves will increasingly mobilize and put pressure on political leaders. One such movement is Patriotic Millionaires, a nonpartisan group of multimillionaires who are already publicly campaigning and privately lobbying the American Congress for a guaranteed living wage for all, a fair tax system, and the protection of equal representation. “Millionaires and large corporations—who have benefited most from our country’s assets—should pay a larger percentage of the tab for running the country,” reads their value statement. Members include Abigail Disney, former BlackRock executive Morris Pearl, legal scholar Lawrence Lessig, screenwriter Norman Lear, and investor Lawrence Benenson.

     

    Another example is TaxMeNow, a lobby group founded in 2021 by young multimillionaires in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland which also advocates for higher wealth taxation. Its most famous member is the 32-year old Marlene Engelhorn, descendant of Friedrich Engelhorn, founder of German pharma giant BASF. She recently set up a council made up of 50 randomly selected Austrian citizens to decide what should happen to her €25 million inheritance. “I have inherited a fortune, and therefore power, without having done anything for it,” she said in a statement. “If politicians don’t do their job and redistribute, then I have to redistribute my wealth myself.”

     

    Earlier this year, Patriotic Millionaires, TaxMeNow, Oxfam, and another activist group called Millionaires For Humanity formed a coalition called Proud to Pay More, and addressed a letter to global leaders during the annual gathering of the World Economic Forum in Davos. Signed by hundreds of high-net-worth individuals—including heiress Valerie Rockefeller, actor Simon Pegg, and filmmaker Richard Curtis—the letter stated: “We all know that ‘trickle down economics’ has not translated into reality. Instead it has given us stagnating wages, crumbling infrastructure, failing public services, and destabilized the very institution of democracy.” It concluded: “We ask you to take this necessary and inevitable step before it’s too late. Make your countries proud. Tax extreme wealth.” In 2025, thanks to the nascent movement of activist millionaires, these calls will grow even louder.

     

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    Why Karlston.. why should they be penalized for being wealthy..

    Whilst some of them are A holes some are not..

    take example Mr Wick.. Bill and Ted.. Matrix.. actor.. he is down to earth.. came from nothing.. suggest you read up on him..

    like him paying £20,000 into someones account as he overheard 2 of the costume makers cry about if one of them didnt pay the amount mentioned by a certain date he would become homeless and his home reprocessed.

    or him riding the subway,, spending 2hours of his time walking with a homeless man listening to him.

    Its theirs to do with what they like.. some have inherited it,, some have earned it, and some have WON it.. via the lotteries..

     

    There are people out there who think like you.. that they should give it away.. but the people on the receiving end would they deserve getting it. Those are the people, just like certain others i could mention.. who think they deserve it.. example would be all the blacks who think they deserve a payment because of what their ancestors went through.. who think they are OWED.. when they currently have a better life than their ancestors but dont make the most of it..

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    According to religious books people should be penalized for the wealth they have. I think the people will give face less headache who have less property or wealth. 

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    My take:

     

    How is having the majority of a country's money in the hands of a tiny minority of benefit to that country and its populace? It isn't at all. It's locking that money away when it could be used beneficially for society. By increasing wages, by improving health care, by decreasing workload and improving recuperation time, etc etc. There was a study some time ago (don't recall where now but I bet a search could find it) that concluded there is enough money in the world to fully support, feed and care for the entire population, but most of it is locked away effectively unused.

     

    Governments and glorious leaders love to make laws 'that benefit society as a whole', yet they never touch the money of the truly wealthy which would make a massive difference. Instead, they fund their 'improvements' by taking it away from another part of that same society. Often the most benefitted are the wealthy who get the contracts and if a few of us normal people benefit a little by being privileged to have a job working for them while they need us, whoopee-do!

     

    Our previous PM's wife's annual earnings from her investments would fund several counties' health and social care needs, while that government was telling us we had to endure austerity and was cutting funding of such things to record lows (while proclaiming to be improving them). That's just one person's yearly dividends, and not even one of the wealthiest!

     

    How is that of benefit to people, to the country or the world? It isn't.

     

    Everyone deserves to be rewarded for their work but there is an enormous disparity between what the wealthy get and keep all to themselves, and what they allow the rest of us to have to share between us. They, at the end of the day, are the ones making or steering the laws and culture that keep it so. Because they can.

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    In all the years of working, a poor person has never given me a job.  If a government steals the rich mans money and once it is spent, who will give me a job?

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    What i gather from reading replies is this..

    THE RICH should pay the governments to FUND the people, who are TOO STUPID to go out and EARN it for themselves..

    pay the CON MEN who rip people off daily... <the government,, heres a fact THE UK GOVERNMENT DOESNT HAVE ANY MONEY.. its the money they take in TAXes, from everyone.. and then THEY spend it.. The tories example they wasted £360 million last year.. the current Labour government have already exceeded in that figure of WASTE,, due to the corruption, under hand deals.

    the 2 billion given in the UKRAINE war.. a war WE shouldnt be invested in..

    the 40million in the protection of the MUSLIMS and MOSQUES in the UK.. why?..WE the british need protecting from THEM and their suicide bombers. Would be better spent REMOVING THEM FROM OUR CHRISTIAN BASED COUNTRY and sending them back to the ISLAMIC countries they originated in.

    the government attacks on british farmers in tax's and then spending that money on FORIEGN farmers.

    Government is FILLED with CONMEN. who are not interested in the people but themselves. the WHATS IN IT FOR ME..

    the same as the CHURCH.. and all charities who WANT YOUR MONEY.. and only 5% of the money they get actually go the people its for..

    i remember reading a report on red nose day chartity.. where it turned out one of the chartities that was given the money by them was actually a TERRORIST GROUP.

     

    So if the rich want to give it to the people,, they should give it to them directly.. governments would take 99.9% of the money and give 0.01% to the people.

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