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    Households should also be prepared for cyberattacks and the use of chemical weapons, a report has warned

     

    EU citizens should start stockpiling three days’ worth of goods in order to be ready for various potential disasters, including a nuclear conflict, a report on the bloc’s civilian and military preparedness has warned.

     

    Published on Wednesday by former Finnish President Sauli Niinisto, the initiative is part of the EU’s push to make the bloc more resilient in the face of supposedly mounting threats, ranging from natural disasters to a major military conflict.

     

    The report encourages EU households to stockpile “basic self-sufficiency” goods that would last for at least 72 hours for fear of potential shortages in case of “armed aggression through conventional means” or other hostile activities such as “cyberattacks or the use of chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear weapons.”

     

    Brussels had tasked Finland’s former president earlier this year with assessing the EU’s security needs following the escalation of the Ukraine conflict, “responding in particular to Russia’s intensifying hybrid operations.”

     

    “One click can switch off power grids and plunge whole cities into the dark,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said at the presentation of the report.

    The document also calls on the EU to boost its defense and spend around 20% of its common budget, currently worth around €1 trillion ($1.08 trillion) over seven years, on security and crisis preparedness.

     

    “Member States should strengthen their cooperation on European defense, jointly investing more to close long-standing gaps in our military and defense industrial readiness,” Niinisto said, reiterating the EU’s commitment to provide aid for Ukraine in the long term.

     

    The bloc also needs to establish an anti-sabotage network to fend off threats through greater information sharing, Finland’s former leader said, citing rising concerns over perceived threats from Russia.

     

    “Given the increasing use of sabotage by hostile third countries, notably Russia, it is an area where internal security and military security are very much interlinked,” the report noted.

     

    Niinisto also urged to “strengthen EU intelligence structures step-by-step towards a fully-fledged EU service for intelligence cooperation.”

     

    The report comes amid Western warnings regarding Russia’s alleged plans to attack Western Europe if it secures a victory over Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin has dismissed the claims as “nonsense.” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has similarly described the allegations as “horror stories,” and suggested they had been made up by Western leaders to distract people’s attention from problems in their own countries.

     

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    Does Mr. former Finnish President Sauli Niinisto thinks their will be anybody left after a nuclear disaster to consume his suggested stockpiling? Maybe he thinks it is like a video game, he can start over again after the disaster, or maybe restart the disaster level.

    The mental abilities of those politicians are really shocking, how they managed to reach these positions, this is an issue that need urgent and through revision.

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    Similar news was published in May 2024 on Sky news so its not really new. The UK Gov even have a "Preppers" website now.

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    On 11/2/2024 at 3:04 PM, mp68terr said:

    These people likely have access to protected underground places while common people are free to die.

    On their private islands and remote enclaves in the case of many. Well away from targets and fallout patterns. I'm sure they 'know' they'll survive and are quite happy to keep playing the get-richer game and take the risk for others to the bitter end.

     

    Seriously... having a stock of necessaries (more than just food) is only common sense anyway if one can. Three days is good but not enough (it's based on things like power and water supply issues and how long to restore them normally). Covid showed that but it seems many people still did not hear, or have now forgotten.

     

    Personally, we were fine when C hit. Partly because I had been watching the news (including here) and took the potential threat more seriously than most early on. In the few weeks before threats of lockdown were heard here, I had already made sure I was ready if it did. When it did, and supermarkets here were emptied within a week (causing a problem which to an extent did not need to be), we needed nothing (not even the suddenly-in-demand toilet paper) and ended up giving some to friends. Plus I had at least a year's worth of emergency food and main supplies anyway. Still have.

     

    At one point I had five years worth of minimal nutrition, water filtration/purification, most medications and even potassium iodide in case of fallout. I've sold KI since it's no longer relevant at our age. I no longer keep such large stocks, but I never stop watching what happens in the world.

     

    If you think the above is silly (and that's fine, I don't care) just think that the above has also saved us a lot of money over the last five years or so as prices have gone stupid. At the moment we are eating some tinned food at a cost of £0.30 per tin; to  buy it now is £0.70. Effectively we are at least a year behind the rising cost of living, and have been for years. Probably has saved us many hundreds, perhaps into low thousands (some of what I stock isn't cheap; I stock what I enjoy eating and drinking 🍸 😉 ).

     

    Humans have a capacity to survive. I've never bought into the 'no one will survive, might as well die quickly' philosophy even in nuclear war. I'm a survivor and I'll fight to do so until my last breath.

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    2 hours ago, Tzcon said:

    The soviets are bluffing

    I don't disagree; said that from the beginning with regards to the nuke threats. Being super-rich is only fun if there's somewhere to spend it and all those oligarchs like the decadent West too much.

     

    There's always the uncertainty though; the last, desperate act of a madman to spit his dummy out and say, "if I can't have it, no-one can". There are always extremists in the world too, a more concerning thought with that country potentially sharing nuclear tech with others in exchange for military support now. Who knows how far they would go?

     

    Personally, I consider the threat of wide-spread nuclear war minimal to vanishingly small; a single, local strike or terrorist incident slightly above that. But not zero. Nuclear 'accidents' are far more likely and a few have been narrowly averted over the decades. There is a documented one by a Soviet hero (my word) who ignored standing orders to fire ICBMs following the command to do so, which turned out to be caused by sensor failure and system errors IIRC.

     

    My more likely scenarios have always been more along the lines of COVID. That could have been much worse (I was hoping for zombies; I was ready; not impressed with the lack of zombies 😉). I think we got a wake-up call as to what nature (if it was truly just nature) can do. Or just vastly changing political climates and the take-over by the mega-rich, which are happening world-wide, causing bad changes to our financial state. That's already happening to us. One of the reasons I no longer have five years of food stock is that we had to use it over the years to offset the lower income and higher cost of living. Personal circumstances, of course.

     

    The human race has got into a 'comfort bubble' over the last few generations, which didn't exist before for the vast majority of us. I guess I see that as fragile, uncertain and potentially temporary. The comfort bubble could be made secure if the world's resources were used towards that, instead of lining the pockets of billionaires. How many times over the decades have we been told things like "robots will mean we don't have to work as hard and can have more leisure time?" or similar. When, in fact, they mostly meant more profit to the shareholders, reduced workforce, and those left without jobs... well, I guess they had more leisure time but that wasn't quite the way it was supposed to go.

     

    Aaaaanyway....

     

    I guess I just believe in being prepared, and I tend to share it because I think others should consider it too. I've been this way since I was a little kid. Partly because of my childhood, but I think it was in my nature anyway; I never was a quitter (a.k.a. stubborn SOB). I'm not OTT about it, I just like to have a backup plan and know I can look after my family, at least a bit, if the SHTF.

    3 hours ago, Tzcon said:

    These criminals need to be stopped and freedom restored

    100%. But that's probably pushing it as far as discussing it here is concerned, so I won't.

     

     

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