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    Between long-standing staffing shortages, intense workloads, inadequate funding, and bureaucratic hurdles, many of England’s family doctors are in distress – prompting them to vote this week to take collective action for the first time in 60 years, a move their union described as an “act of desperation”.

     

    But safety experts warn that patients could suffer as a result of the collective action, as GPs plan to limit appointments and direct patients to other providers in the coming weeks and months.

     

    “This is definitely going to be felt across the country, and is a further setback for thousands of patients across England,” William Pett, head of policy, public affairs, and research at Healthwatch England, told Euronews Health.

     

    The collective action isn’t a strike, and it isn’t mandatory. GPs represented by the British Medical Association (BMA) can choose from a suite of 10 recommended actions that it says bring GPs’ workloads back in line with their contracts.

     

    The most notable is an option to cap the number of patients seen at 25 per day. For the busiest GPs, who may see upward of 40 patients per day, that would be a 37.5 per cent drop.

     

    As a result, patients could face longer wait times for GP appointments, leading to delayed diagnostics or treatments, Mirka Cikkelova, general secretary of the European Patient Safety Foundation, told Euronews Health.

     

    Limitations would also have ripple effects on other healthcare services, such as pharmacies, emergency medical services, and the 111 symptom hotline, according to Pett.

     

    As one of the 10 recommended actions, GPs could choose to bypass NHS processes and instead refer patients directly to specialists.

    “We are going to be putting increased pressure on already very stretched services,” Pett said.

     

    “There is a concern about how overloaded other services may become as a result of this collective action.”

     

    •     English family doctors vote to stage collective action, including limiting patient appointments

     

    Potential of ‘worse outcomes for patients’

     

    During the collective action, which is indefinite, GP practices are still required to be open from 8 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. between Monday and Friday. But Pett said patients may think that service limitations are the result of a strike, and avoid seeking any care at all.

     

    Peter Howitt, managing director of the Centre for Health Policy and Climate Cares Centre at the Institute of Global Health Innovation at Imperial College London, likened the potential disruptions to the COVID-19 era when providers were overwhelmed and patients put off seeking non-urgent care.

     

    “When people worried about the health service capacity, they just didn't go – and that led to things like cancers being caught and diagnosed much later, with much worse outcomes for patients,” Howitt told Euronews Health.

     

    On the other hand, limiting patient visits could also give family doctors more time with each patient, leading to better patient outcomes, as well as less stress for GPs, Cikkelova said.

     

    Yet “at the same time, a solution has to be found for the other patients who are left aside by this decision,” Cikkelova said.

     

    A resolution could be at least a couple of months away, Howitt said.

     

    Months of disruptions due to strikes

     

    The BMA has blamed the UK’s former conservative governments – which were in power for 14 years before being ousted in July – for the country’s “broken” National Health Service (NHS). The union said it has had “positive conversations” with Wes Streeting, the new health secretary for the Labour-led government.

     

    The government also announced this week that it would recruit more than 1,000 new GPs this year, in a bid to “rebuild the health service”. But it wasn’t enough to stave off the collective action vote.

     

    The BMA decision also came days after a union committee struck a deal with the government to raise pay for England’s junior doctors by an average of 22 per cent over two years. Junior doctors have taken industrial action 11 times since March 2023 – including several strikes – leading to nearly 1.5 million acute visits being postponed, according to NHS England.

     

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    Demonstrators hold banners during a junior doctors rally outside Downing Street in London, Friday, August 11, 2023.

    - Kirsty Wigglesworth/AP Photo, File

     

    The GP collective action probably won’t have the same impact on patients as the junior doctors’ strikes, Howitt said.

     

    That’s because about 68 per cent of eligible GP voters turned out for the collective action vote (with 98 per cent voting yes), so it’s likely that some practices won’t take the recommended measures. Not all GPs are BMA members, either.

     

    However, the latest move exacerbates the access barriers patients have been grappling with since last year, Pett said.

     

    In a nationally representative survey from June, about a quarter of UK adults said they have struggled to get a GP appointment in the past six months.

     

    “This is just a further impact on patients from what has already been an incredibly disruptive 18 months,” Pett said.

     

    “These are not just numbers of cancelled appointments. These are real people having to deal with the stress and the anxiety of now-further delays to what could be a really urgent diagnosis.”

     

    Pett, Howitt, and others emphasised that if patients have a health issue, they should continue to try to see their doctor, adding that GPs participating in the collective action should clearly communicate what steps they are taking and how patients can find alternatives if necessary.

     

    “The biggest risk here is that people suffer in silence,” Howitt said.

     

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    LOL.. you talking as though this is new..

    I havent seen my doctor in 4years.. the last time i saw mine.. he changed the pills i was taking and told me to go back and see him 30days time.. as he wanted to see if the new pills gave me and side effects like the previous ones..

    I left.. told HIS receptionist HE wanted to see me in 30days.. and was told by her.. it was TOO EARLY to make the appointment come back closer..

    28days later.. i went back.. reminded her what she said.. and she told me "You need to go online and fill out a form to see him."

    so i filled out the form putting on it.. that MY doctor wanted to see me it asked if there was a particular doctor I wanted to see so i put HIS NAME.

    I then got a phone call from some other doctor i've never see or even heard off. who told me to "KEEP AN EYE ON IT" which didnt get me the repeat prescription of said pills or tell him if i was having any side effects..

    i repeated this form 3 more times.. speaking to 3 other doctors who all said the same thing..KEEP AN EYE ON IT.

    so i gave up trying..

    Then last year i'd pulled something in my shoulder.. so phoned 111 and got an appointment to see A doctor.. not mine.. aggrevated nerve.. told to take pain killers..

    ironically they sent me a text message in November saying "as you havent seen you in 4 years we would like you to come for a HEALTH CHECK.

    I went.. they took blood.. sent it off and then i got a phone call telling me i needed to go back and give more blood as the company doing the blood tests SCREWED UP the result.

    i go back.. and 3 times the nurse put the needle in my arm and missed the vein.. so i ended up going to the hospital for them to do it

    a few weeks later My arm the one the nurse put the needle into is painful.. Thanks to HER i got bloodclots.. as i asked When was the last time you had a needle put in that arm..

    been on blood thinners ever since.. Wish i'd never gone for the "HEALTH CHECK"..

    so in 5years.. seen my doctor 1.. seen 2 other doctors at the same "surgery" due to shoulder and arm..

    and spent a good 3 different days in hospital for various tests.. for upto 12hrs.. each time.. waiting.. having blood taken, o2 levels checked etc..

    As for the pills which i should be taking never heard anything more about it.. so 4 years i've been without.

    my surgery has now changed hands.. and has had a name change..

    same BS go online to request an appointment as they wont take it over the phone.. ie you phone and say..I'd like an appointment please.

    thats if you can get the site to actually work which it doesnt for me.. their so called example page shows a blue box on the page..

    theres no blue box on my screen which is where you make the type of appointment you want..
    Note: i've tried 3 different browsers.. all portable..all without any adblockers.. aka firefox, palemoon and chrome. and all the same no blue box even after i've logged in.. different company behind the page compared to before..

    111 is the only way for me to see a doctor.. thats how screwed up it is.. now..
    And i get told theres nothing wrong with the site its ME..

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    Government health care and socialized medicine is so sad.   If you are part of the royal family you are blessed. If someone in your family is a doctor you are blessed.  The rich and famous can always leave the country for their medical needs.  All others should pray that you don't get sick.

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    I don't think most people know why the NHS was founded in the UK. It was started by the conservative government (shocker right there!) for one reason: there simply weren't enough fit people to work in the factories and fields after WWII and the industry was suffering. There was a major labour shortage, because so many people were sick, injured, disabled, and just plain starved half to death. So, the tories invented the NHS with the sole purpose of getting people back to work. Since then it's been played as if they did it for the people but as is usually the case, it wasn't. Not that people being able to work and survive was a bad thing of course, but it wasn't done for their benefit.

     

    You can see the same principle even now in many aspects of the NHS. Treatment for injuries that do the minimal to 'fix' them as quickly as possible and get the person fit for work again, yet that quick fix causes life-long problems that could easily have been avoided (and routinely are, if you are wealthy enough to afford private care and not have to rush back to work to feed the family). I have personal and family experience of that many times and I've researched the treatments used, and the much better (but longer and/or more expensive) alternatives used routinely elsewhere.

     

    As long as there are enough people to work, and there have been for decades, why bother paying to maintain the NHS or make sure it is run properly? Let it fail, then they can have the excuse to bring in the private medical companies that have been quietly buying out and taking over the NHS bit by bit for many years. Finally sell off the last public institution in the UK and make everything about big business. At least, that's my view of what's been happening based on observation and evidence. It stinks. We've been being pushed backwards to Victorian times for a long time.

     

    Meanwhile, the NHS itself gets the blame; staff are overworked to the extreme (I know a lead surgeon at a major hospital), hospitals are understaffed and closed, and sick people are made to travel many miles to get basic treatment under the government's plans to 'streamline services' for our benefit. Most of my appointments now are a 45 minute drive away (double that at peak times), followed by a 30 to 60 minute queue to just get into the car park most of the time. I literally have to allow two full hours minimum every time I go. Then of course, I'll wait an hour past my appointment time in an overcrowded to the point of being oppressive waiting room because they are running late. Yet if I'm a minute late I get told I have to make another appointment because... rules! There used to be two other hospitals I could go to that were 20-30 minutes drive away. I feel so sorry for people who don't have transport!

     

    There was another news item here about English dental care and why it's declining. Why??? It costs a fortune! I'm lucky to have an NHS dentist; it still costs a lot (dental care isn't free even with our NHS, for those unaware. If you have a rare place at an NHS dentist, it is subsidised, but still expensive for any work). For the many who aren't lucky, like my parents, paying private dental care is outrageous. I've been quoted over £1000 for a difficult extraction if/when I need it, because my NHS dentist isn't equipped to deal with it... so I have to go private for that. I should have been a dentist, lol. The one that quoted me drives a Maserati. And a Porsche. And a Range Rover. And probably others I haven't seen him in yet.

     

    I hate politics and this isn't the place for a political debate, but it's really hard to discuss this topic without invoking it because that's what it all boils down to. I really hope the new lot do the right thing, in a lot of areas (for the record, I don't trust them much more than the last lot. They're politicians.) It's about time England had leaders that cared about everyone's quality of life, not just the 1% or whichever little group they think are easiest to get votes from.

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    Wrong.. it was not started by the conservative party.. let me take a wild stab in the dark.. you read somewhere that PM Churchhill.. started it..he said it would cost to much, Then LABOUR came into power and went ahead with it..

    https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Birth-of-the-NHS/

    The National Health Service, abbreviated to NHS, was launched by the then Minister of Health in Attlee’s post-war government, Aneurin Bevan,

    In 1945, as World War Two was reaching its conclusion, Labour achieved a shock election victory. Winston Churchill was ousted as prime minister and replaced by the relatively unknown Labour leader Clement Attlee.

    Labour won the election with a manifesto drawing directly on the Beveridge Report. It promised a National Health Service that would make healthcare available to those who had previously been unable to afford it.

     

    shortage of workers.. WOMEN where doing the work the men used to do as they where fighting the war..

    and of course the men unfit to serve.. after the war those men that where not killed took over from the women, and the women where disappointed as they liked doing the work. hence the expression Woman can do anything a man can do.

     

    and as for quick fix.. try again.. you'd want a quick fix.. but it doesnt happen..

    example a simple kidney stone.. for which there are 2 treatments.. depending on the size..

    1. a sonic blaster..lithotripsy techincal name, placed above the stone.. and the stone is pounded for 45minutes.. and over time it will be expelled from your body.. 4weeks.

    2. large stones.. operation..

    going back to 1.. you'd expect that to be done and be done as a quick fix.. i do not call 8 months a quick fix.

    remember i said the sonic blasting takes 45min.. and then upto 4 weeks to expell the parts of the stone.

    i had a kidney stone and i went through it.. March - September..#

    ultra sound.. to find the stone.. x-ray's, consultations, more ultra sounds,, march- june all i had was x-rays, ultra-sounds, pain killers, scans, consultations.. then finally July i had the sonic blast.. aka lithotripsy. 2 things.. 1 i was told i would bleed when i pee'd, this was natural due to the sonic waves on the kidneys.. and 2 i should pass the pieces of stone over 4 weeks.. then in 4 weeks i would need another scan..

    personally would have preferred.. day 1.. ultra sound > consultation and take pain killer.. followed by lithotripsy once pain killer was working.. 4 weeks later.. scan to make sure stone gone.. 1month.. down from the actual 8 it took.

     

    4th error of your post.. about the people making it fail and they will send in private companies..

    Jeremy HUNT health secretary TORY MP.. wanted to privatise the NHS.. as he had SHARES in the pharma companies.. he wanted those companies to supply the NHS hospitals.. even though the products where higher costing.. than other pharma companies.. of course nice big pay day for him.. however the NHS hospitals bought from the companies they wanted.. PRICE + QUALITY over EXPENSE+cheap quality.

    like branded based pills costing 10times the price of unbranded pills but did exactly the same job..

     

    wow 2hrs travels time.. well i'm 20-25mins from my hospital.. which is closed today due to power cuts.. so not taking any patients at all..

    however i went for an appointment back in feb.. scan.. had a needle put in my arm and waited.. then had the scan.. and was injected with a chemical.. supposed to have 2 scans.. only had 1.. was told i could go home after the scan.. had to tell them they where wrong and that i had to see according to the letter i had.. have the scan and then talk to the doctor.. they phoned, confirm this was the case and i had to walk half-way round the hospital to get to the doctor.. there i sat for over 4hrs waiting for a 10min chat.. to tell me to take the pills i'd already been given. the previous day.. when i went in for that SCAN.. i didnt have it at all.. i had a chest x-ray, blood test and ultra-sound.. and was there over 8hrs.

     

    You lucky to have a nhs dentist.. i signed up. couldnt get an appointment try again in 5weeks.. each time..

    then covid struck.. i got a tooth infection.. phoned up.. and was told.. due the fact i havent seen you in 2years..<<good never get  an appointment..  you are no longer on my books.. ended up going to the emergency dentist.. roundtrip 24miles.. and given antibiotics.. and ironally told once finished the pills go see my dentist.. literally 3 minutes after i told him i didnt have one.

    currently there are 13 NHS dentists within 2 miles of my place.. and NONE are taking on patients. but they will take me on as private at a cost of £49-59 for a check up. thats where they take a look at your teeth and tell you, you need work done.. and of course a bigger bill of £200-500 for that.. cause your not NHS.. and when you might need a tooth extraction.. make that £800+ when you should be NHS..

    which is why i still have the infection.. 2 years.. i use salt-water.

     

    But you also missed out the point about the reason it seems to be declining..

    but politics sort of come into it..

    simple is ALL THE DAMN MIGRANTS coming into the country.. more people for the nhs to look after.. and considering NHS has been DEFUNDED by the previous government aka THE CONSERVATIVES.. thats the reason why.. cost of living increase everything gone up.. except for the payment to the NHS which should have been around 11% increase but was only increase by 1.5%.

    so they've had to do the same appointments with LESS MONEY.. hence the reason why the doctors went on strike..

    they havent had a pay rise in 10years.. compared with that of the MP's who have a pay rise every year.

     

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