steven36 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 5 minutes ago, Holmes said: I may look into finding a external player I have used youtube player for ever and have never had any problems. When I get a problem Ill consider switching Im content for now. I have clicked on the live demo and looks boring I have removed numerous infections from friends and family computers that ended in dotjs. I think htmlfive has a better future then javascript. How does it have a better future ? Google don't even got technology to run a site without it . every site uses JavaScript and really i could live without HTML5. without JavaScript the whole internet would be broke . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 We have seen what the future of javascript is like its been ugly for a long time. There creating new technologies all the time if any company can create a javascript alternative google or alphabet can and should. The whole internet would break possibly. There working on ideas look: http://www.infoworld.com/article/2902074/javascript/google-dart-will-not-replace-in-browser-javascript.html They nixed it its an idea we are getting closer to a replacement its only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 5 hours ago, Holmes said: We have seen what the future of javascript is like its been ugly for a long time. There creating new technologies all the time if any company can create a javascript alternative google or alphabet can and should. The whole internet would break possibly. There working on ideas look: http://www.infoworld.com/article/2902074/javascript/google-dart-will-not-replace-in-browser-javascript.html They nixed it its an idea we are getting closer to a replacement its only a matter of time. That project is dead as deemed unfit to replace JS it It took HTML5 nearly 17 years to become finalized to become a candidate to replace flash. http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/28/html5-on-the-rise-no-longer-ahead-of-its-time/#.zhuus7:6NEr I live in the realm of the here and now were JavaScript is eating the world http://arc.applause.com/2015/11/06/javascript-is-eating-the-world/ Not something that may replace something 20 years from now .. i may not even be alive by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Thats why its so insecure because its so popular they can evolve it into different JS like C# is to C++ or C. As for the project being dead I know it doesnt really matter how long it took them to make HTMLFive it took alexander grambell one thousand tries to make the light bulb does that mean he failed nine hundred and ninety nine times no that means he ended up finding out nine hundred and ninety nine ways on how not to make a light bulb. That article talks about how nice HTMLFive is and how its going to be good in two thousand sixteen opposite of what you were saying. I agree its eating the world the world is broken the world of the internet is broken because of it the internet is so insecure its insane thanks to javascript and its nodeJS angularJS gorillaJS so on and so forth are delaying the inevitable I think. Ill be alive (hopefully) to see a successor to javascript we are going to see I havve faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 21 minutes ago, Holmes said: Thats why its so insecure because its so popular they can evolve it into different JS like C# is to C++ or C. As for the project being dead I know it doesnt really matter how long it took them to make HTMLFive it took alexander grambell one thousand tries to make the light bulb does that mean he failed nine hundred and ninety nine times no that means he ended up finding out nine hundred and ninety nine ways on how not to make a light bulb. That article talks about how nice HTMLFive is and how its going to be good in two thousand sixteen opposite of what you were saying. I agree its eating the world the world is broken the world of the internet is broken because of it the internet is so insecure its insane thanks to javascript and its nodeJS angularJS gorillaJS so on and so forth are delaying the inevitable I think. Ill be alive (hopefully) to see a successor to javascript we are going to see I havve faith. You think it mattered to people that didn't have lights that Alexander Graham Bell failed nine hundred and ninety nine times? No it didn't they had lanterns. Only tell something is invented 1st that it can replace something does it start mattering at all .. then it has to be approved witch will take a very long time . I have more faith of seeing World War 3 1st. That' s called Self-deception believing in things that's not happen yet , its not good for you . Like the song goes...If it will it will, and if it won't it won't. If it does it does . So why build you're own hopes up just to let yourself down if it don't happen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 There is a big difference between faith and self deception and if world war three could bring the end of javascript we blow ourselves up with north korea and its bombs try a global killer nothing would survive everything dies including bacteria. Your getting into politics and thats against the rules back on topic there was a operating system created by hackers that were bored that was FUN forget what it was Ill find it. I decided to be a christian and Im happy I did my faith has helped out alot and its hasnt failed me yet I doubt its going to fail me javascript ends up thriving and HTMLFive fails I dont see it happening not with that link you showed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 minute ago, Holmes said: There is a big difference between faith and self deception and if world war three could bring the end of javascript we blow ourselves up with north korea and its bombs try a global killer nothing would survive everything dies including bacteria. Your getting into politics and thats against the rules back on topic there was a operating system created by hackers that were bored that was FUN forget what it was Ill find it. I decided to be a christian and Im happy I did my faith has helped out alot and its hasnt failed me yet I doubt its going to fail me javascript ends up thriving and HTMLFive fails I dont see it happening not with that link you showed me. I didn't worry about HTML5 tell it started starting me in the face in Firefox last year then we figured out YouTube was using it to canvas fingerprint you . Did you know that if you use flash on YouTube that you can disable canvas and it will still work but if you use HTML5 the only way to get around it is use a fake fingerprint witch is only working in Firefox by the way now canvas fingerprint blocking add-on don't work at all in google chrome right now. HTML5 invades you're privacy also Google ban addons to keep you from downloading from there site Youtube and Firefox is headed the same way with it changing to Google's api . I don't really like HTML5 if by chance you achieving a little extra security you are giving up privacy and freedom of choice . It should be our choice what we use in our own browser or do we want to use flash or not, HTML5 is more about Google controlling the internet than it is about security . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted December 31, 2015 Administrator Share Posted December 31, 2015 I still think you guys are comparing two completely different and wrong stuff, yeah, I do mean comparing A and O and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 minute ago, DKT27 said: I still think you guys are comparing two completely different and wrong stuff, yeah, I do mean comparing A and O and such. Well for me I use JS files in greasemonkey and such some of them protect me against malware and ads and stuff its just like anything else it can be used for evil or good is the point im trying get across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I did know that yes the addon does work i have tested it. I dont use google chrome most of the time I prefer firefox. I agree and know it can be used for positive and negative my point is javascript has replacements coming there way when HTMLFive is a replacement a alternative to flash. According to the link you posted: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/28/html5-on-the-rise-no-longer-ahead-of-its-time/#.in5xyzt:yKHR HTMLFive could be good in two thousand sixteen. I use greasemonkey to and only use javascript because I have to just like I use internet explorer I hate internet explorer to I use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 4 minutes ago, Holmes said: I did know that yes the addon does work i have tested it. I dont use google chrome most of the time I prefer firefox. I agree and know it can be used for positive and negative my point is javascript has replacements coming there way when HTMLFive is a replacement a alternative to flash. According to the link you posted: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/28/html5-on-the-rise-no-longer-ahead-of-its-time/#.in5xyzt:yKHR HTMLFive could be good in two thousand sixteen. I use greasemonkey to and only use javascript because I have to just like I use internet explorer I hate internet explorer to I use it. I think the point DKT27 was making that JavaScript and HTML5 are not the same thing so were going to far off topic . I don't see nothing wrong with this project OJS but will it catch on i have no idea I know I have no need for it. For me to use something I have to have a need . Im not like i was 5 years ago were I test everything new under the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I know there both not the same I never said they were omfg. How insecure it is thats whats wrong with it it would take no time at all to hack into it. I test everything I used to do it alot now not so much my hard drive one terabyte filled up and I had to stop. I have so many programs installed its not funny and keeping them updated is fun. HTMLFive cant work without javcascript on youtube they work together so its not really going off topic when talking about that not talking about OSdotJS is going off topic and like I said its insecure shouldnt be used as a main OS using it as a test operating system is fine if you use it as a main operating system and you get hacked thats your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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