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steven36 posted a topic in General NewsVerizon says the archivists it has blocked breached its terms of service. Verizon, which bought Yahoo In 2017, has suspended email addresses of archivists who are trying to preserve 20 years of content that will be deleted permanently in a few weeks. As Verizon announced in October, the company intends to wipe all content from Yahoo Groups. As of December 14, all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed. The mass deletion includes files, polls, links, photos, folders, database, calendar, attachments, conversations, email updates, message digests, and message histories that was uploaded to Yahoo servers since pre-Google 1990s. Verizon planned to allow users to download their own data from the site's privacy dashboard, but apparently it has a problem with the work of The Archive Team who wants to save content to upload it to the non-profit Internet Archive, which runs the popular Wayback Machine site. "Yahoo banned all the email addresses that the Archive Team volunteers had been using to join Yahoo Groups in order to download data," reported the Yahoo Groups Archive Team. "Verizon has also made it impossible for the Archive Team to continue using semi-automated scripts to join Yahoo Groups – which means each group must be rejoined one by one, an impossible task (redo the work of the past four weeks over the next 10 days)." News of the apparently aggressive move from Verizon was first reported on boingboing.net. The Yahoo Groups Archive Team argues that it is facing a near total "80% loss of data" because Verizon is blocking the team members' email accounts. The Yahoo Groups site isn't widely used today but it was in the past. The size of the archive that the group is trying to save is substantial and the group had saved about 1.8 billion messages as of late 2018. According to the Archive Team: "As of 2019-10-16 the directory lists 5,619,351 groups. 2,752,112 of them have been discovered. 1,483,853 (54%) have public message archives with an estimated number of 2.1 billion messages (1,389 messages per group on average so far). 1.8 billion messages (86%) have been archived as of 2018-10-28." Verizon has issued a statement to the group supporting the Archive Team, telling concerned archivists that "the resources needed to maintain historical content from Yahoo Groups pages is cost-prohibitive, as they're largely unused". The telecoms giant also said the people booted from the service had violated its terms of service and suggested the number of users affected was small. "Regarding the 128 people who joined Yahoo Groups with the goal to archive them – are those people from Archiveteam.org? If so, their actions violated our Terms of Service. Because of this violation, we are unable reauthorize them," Verizon said. "Also, moderators of Groups can ban users if they violate their Groups' terms, so previously banned members will be unable to download content from that Group. If you can send the user information, we can investigate the cause of lack of access." Additionally, Verizon mentioned that the email functionality of the platform will still continue to work, at least for members who haven't been expelled. "While users will no longer be able to post or upload content to the site, the email functionality exists. If you are having issues with this feature, please reach out to [email protected] and we will work to fix the problem with any delay," the Verizon spokesperson wrote. ZDNet has contacted Verizon for comment and will update the story if it responds. Source
steven36 posted a topic in Technology NewsAfter nearly 20 years, it's time to say goodbye to venerable messageboard Yahoo! is finally killing off Groups at the end of this year, after having launched it almost two decades ago. Once a bustling corner of the internet for netizens to advertise items, share information, or socialize with one another, Yahoo! Groups is now a husk of its former self, overtaken by the likes of Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter. Yahoo!, now owned by Verizon, began winding down Yahoo! Groups this time last year when it stopped users from posting new content on the one-time internet super-forum, and then deleted all of its pages. People were invited to continue following their special interest groups via email. Essentially, Yahoo! Groups became just a glorified mailing-list provider. As of Monday this week, no new lists, er, groups can be created on the site. The final nail in the coffin will come in mid-December, when the plug is pulled on groups.yahoo.com, and no more mail will be exchanged via the service. “We’re shutting down the Yahoo! Groups website on December 15, 2020 and members will no longer be able to send or receive emails from Yahoo! Groups,” the site said in a statement. It recommends groups start afresh on other platforms, such as Facebook Groups, Google Groups, or Groups.io. Admins can fetch a list of their users from the "Management | Manage members" page, opening the "Actions menu," and hitting "Export." “Yahoo! Groups has seen a steady decline in usage over the last several years," the biz observed. "Over that same period, we’ve witnessed unprecedented levels of engagement across our properties as customers seek out premium, trustworthy content. While these decisions are never easy, we must sometimes make difficult decisions regarding products that no longer fit our long-term strategy as we hone our focus on other areas of the business.” Launched in 2001, Yahoo! Groups was largely unmoderated. Some boards were public, while others were private and could only be accessed by members, who were invited to join. While this led to some ugly online scenes, the system largely worked, and some will miss the passing of such an iconic part of early internet history. Then again, we're getting on fine without Alta Vista. Source