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  1. How to move all your LastPass passwords and pick an alternative LastPass is limiting what free accounts can do. Here's how to move to another password manager Credit: LastPass You should be using a password manager to keep your online accounts protected. But if you’ve been using the free version of LastPass then you might want to think about switching. From March 16, the company is changing its policies and payment structure to limit the use of free LastPass accounts. The changes, which have not gone down well with customers, will mean people can only use LastPass for free on one type of device: computers or mobile devices. Simply put, if you use LastPass on one type of device, you can’t use it on the other. “Your first login on or after March 16, 2021, will set your active device type,” LastPass says, adding people will be able to switch device type up to three times to “explore what's right” before being locked to one type permanently. Email support is also being pulled from free accounts. If people using LastPass don’t want to be locked to one device type – a step that’s pretty impractical in the real-world – then there are two choices. Either upgrade to a paid LastPass Premium account and get more features (around £31 per year), which is the preferred option for the makers of LastPass, or find an alternative password manager. Since LastPass announced the changes to its free plan in February, there’s been a swell of interest in other password managers and scrutiny of the company itself. Security researchers have pointed out there are seven trackers in the LastPass Android app, including four from Google and others that collect data for marketing companies. While people using the LastPass app can opt-out of the trackers, some of its rivals don’t include any trackers at all. Other reports say the move has been spearheaded by LastPass’s new owners who want to convert more of its 25 million customers to paying subscribers. Either way, the change is coming and you need to decide what to do next. Exporting your LastPass passwords Even if you decide not to move up to the paid premium tier of LastPass and leave the service, you’ll want to keep using a password manager. Using the software means you can easily have strong, unique passwords for all your online accounts and reduce the chances of your accounts being hacked. But you probably don’t want to start from scratch. Thankfully, most password managers have import and export functions so that you can move your data from one service to another without any hassle. There are a couple of formats you can export your LastPass password data in. There’s the option to export it as an encrypted file, which you can add back to LastPass at another time. To do this you need to use the password manager’s browser extension and create an encryption key for when you reimport the data into LastPass. Through the browser extension click Account Options, Advanced, Export, and then LastPass Encrypted File. From here you will need to re-enter your master password and finally you will be asked to create an encryption key (make sure you remember it). You can then download your data. The most useful way for exporting LastPass data to use with another password manager is as a CSV. The process is similar to creating an encrypted version of the data. Visit your account settings through LastPass’s browser extension and find your way to the export tool. To download your data in a CSV, you’ll need your LastPass master password. Once it’s downloaded the file can be imported into other password managers. For instance, BitWarden supports the importing of CSV files from LastPass, as do 1Password and KeePass. Whatever you decide to do with your LastPass exported data you should make sure you delete the CSV file afterwards. CSVs store text in a plain format that’s readable to anyone. Deleting your LassPass account If you’ve had enough you can delete your LastPass account – although be sure to have exported your password data before doing so. Deleting your LastPass account means exactly that: it will permanently and irreversibly delete your passwords along with any secure notes or other data you’ve added. “Everything you had in LastPass will be gone. Forever,” the company says. Once you’re all set to delete your account then head to this page and go through the deletion process. Alternatives to LastPass Picking a password manager isn’t straightforward – everyone’s online needs are slightly different and not all password managers are equal. Cost, usability, and technical specifications are all key components that you should take into account when picking an alternative to LastPass. Our guide to the best password managers has a detailed breakdown of seven alternatives we recommend – but we’re highlighting a couple of them here as well. BitWarden: This US-based password manager is our pick of the bunch. Like a lot of password managers BitWarden has both free and paid-for tiers that you can subscribe to. Unlike some, including LastPass, its free tier is packed with features. You can create an unlimited number of logins and other records, sync the data across all of your devices, generate passwords and more. The subscription tiers add encrypted file attachments, better two-factor authentication support and priority customer service. KeePass: It might not be the prettiest piece of software but KeePass is the best free password manager out there – and it gives you a lot of control. It allows you to store your encrypted password file anywhere you like and as a result, there are other KeePass alternatives, such as KeeWeb and AuthPass. The flexibility makes it a favourite of power users. 1Password: There isn’t a free tier for 1Password but subscriptions for a year cost around £28. As well as common features such as apps across all devices and password synching, there’s also a travel mode that can be implemented to temporarily be removed from your account if you’re travelling to countries that may try to access that information. 1Password is our favourite, subscription-only password manager. Source: How to move all your LastPass passwords and pick an alternative
  2. How to Delete Your LastPass Account Maor_Winetrob/Shutterstock Decided to move away from LastPass? It’s time to say your final goodbyes by deleting your account. This makes sure that none of your passwords will be stored on LastPass’ servers. Here’s how to delete your LastPass account. You can delete your LastPass account even if you have lost access to your master password (as long as you have access to the email address you used to sign up with LastPass). In this guide, we will focus on how to delete your LastPass account if you know the master password. It just takes a couple of clicks to complete this process. Once the LastPass account is deleted, you will lose access to all the information stored in your account. All your usernames, passwords, autocomplete data, and personal identifiers will be deleted permanently. Before you begin, make sure you export your LastPass data (you can then import it into other services like Bitwarden). When you’re ready to delete your account, first, log in to your LastPass account, and then open LastPass’s Delete Your Account page. Then, from the “Delete Your Account” section, click the “Delete” button. LastPass will ask you if you remember your master password. Click the “Yes” button. At this point, LastPass will load a large pop-up message. If you haven’t already, you can click the “Export Your Data Now” button to start LastPass data export in a new tab. Next, enter your LastPass master password and your email address. Select a reason for deleting your account and then click the “Delete” button. LastPass will ask you if you’re sure you want to delete your account. Here, click the “Yes” button. After this, LastPass will ask you for a confirmation one last time if you’re really sure you want to delete your account. Click the “Yes” button. And finally, you’ll be logged out of LastPass, and the website will tell you that your account has been deleted permanently. Once this is done, there is no way to get your passwords back. Click the “OK” button to go back to the LastPass home page. Wondering where you should go from here? Here’s how other popular password managers like 1Password, Dashlane, and KeePass compare to LastPass. Source: How to Delete Your LastPass Account
  3. Like many or all users nowadays, I have too many passwords to remember, since I don't use the same password between services. I was looking for a service to securely store my passwords, and I have read in many sites about LastPass. I'm testing this service right now and it's awesome, really good, but, I can't help thinking how and where my passwords are being stored, who can access them, are the service/servers secure against attacks, if the service goes offline for maintenance or problems, how can I login in my accounts? And many others questions... So, I'm here to listen a word from you guys, services/tools like LastPass, KeePass, 1Password worth it?
  4. LastPass increased the price of the Premium plan of its password management service in February 2019; this time to $3 per month for a Premium plan, an increase by $1 per month. LastPass is the maker of a popular password management service. Free and paid versions of LastPass are available, and Home users may upgrade accounts to a Premium or Family plans. The Premium version adds features such as encrypted file storage, emergency access, advanced multi-factor authentication options, and priority tech support to the feature set. LastPass enabled mobile access for free accounts in 2015, and removed the free account limitation that restricted sync operations to device classes (e.g. PC to PC, but not PC to mobile). Families support up to six users as opposed to the single user that a Premium license supports. It furthermore includes access to a family manager dashboard and unlimited shared folders. LastPass Premium's price is $3 per month if paid annually as of February 2019. LastPass increased the price from $2 per month to $3 per month in February for existing and new users; this is the second premium price increase after the increase from $1 per month to $2 per month in 2017. Both increases came after LogMeIn's acquisition of LastPass in late 2015. The new price took effect for new customers on February 7, 2019. Existing customers have to pay the new price when they renew the plan. LastPass sends out reminders 30-days before the expiration of a plan to notify users about the upcoming renewal. Price comparison An increase from $1 to $3 per month in two years is certainly something that does not look too good on paper. Compared to other premium password manager offerings, it is not too expensive, however. Dashlane charges $5 per month for Dashlane Premium, 1Password $2.99 per month (and $4.99 for Families), Enpass asks for one-time payments for individual platforms ($11.99 per platform), and BitWarden charges $1 per month for its Family plan (there is no Premium plan). KeePass, which I use, is available for free. LastPass' price matches that of the competition for the most part. Enpass' decision to charge users a one-time fee deserves commendation in a world in which most companies move to subscription-based services. Closing Words The LastPass Families price remained as it was; it costs just $1 more per month and gives customers access to five additional Premium accounts. The price increase moves LastPass' premium offering in line with its competition. Source: LastPass increases price of Premium plan again (gHacks - Martin Brinkmann)
  5. LastPass has released a fix last week. Vulnerability details are now public. Users advised to update. Password manager LastPass has released an update last week to fix a security bug that exposes credentials entered on a previously visited site. The bug was discovered last month by Tavis Ormandy, a security researcher with Project Zero, Google's elite security and bug-hunting team. Fix available LastPass, believed to be the most popular password manager app today, fixed the reported issue in version 4.33.0, released last week, on September 12. If users have not enabled an auto-update mechanism for their LastPass browser extensions or mobile apps, they're advised to perform a manual update as soon as possible. This is because yesterday, Ormandy published details about the security flaw he found. The security researcher's bug report walks an attacker through the steps necessary to reproduce the bug. Since the bug relies on executing malicious JavaScript code alone, with no other user interaction, the bug is considered dangerous and potentially exploitable. Attackers could lure users on malicious pages and exploit the vulnerability to extract the credentials entered on previously-visited sites. According to Ormandy, this isn't as hard as it sounds, as an attacker could easily disguise a malicious link behind a Google Translate URL, trick users into visiting the link, and then extract credentials from a previously visited site. "I think it's fair to call this 'High' severity, even if it won't work for *all* URLs," Ormandy said. Since the vulnerability was discovered and then privately reported by Google, there's no reason to believe the bug has been exploited in the wild. A LastPass spokesperson did not return a request for comment. Don't abandon password managers because of a fixable bug Like any other applications, password managers are sometimes vulnerable to bugs, which are in all cases eventually fixed. Despite this vulnerability, users are still advised to rely on a password manager whenever they can. Using a password manager is many times better than leaving passwords stored inside a browser, from where they can be easily extracted by forensic tools and malware. LastPass' efficiency in keeping passwords away from prying eyes was proven this summer when the company couldn't answer legal demands from the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). The company was told by cops to hand over information on a user, such as passwords and home address, but the company couldn't comply with the order because the data was encrypted and they couldn't access it. Source
  6. Approximately 57% of businesses around the world are currently using multi-factor authentication (MFA), with a 12% gain over the stats from last year according to research from LastPass based on data from 47,000 orgs. Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) a method of authentication designed to add an extra layer of protection on top of the users' credentials. When MFA is enabled for an online service, the user will also be prompted to enter an authentication code from their MFA solution (hardware or software-based) after logging in using their usernames and password. "Securing employee access has never been more important and unfortunately, we see businesses ignore password security altogether, or only half-heartedly attempt to address it," said LogMeIn Chief Information Security Officer, Gerald Beuchelt. "This report further highlights the importance of using the identity and access management tools available to information security managers in addition to maintaining focus on employee training to improve password habits." 95% use software-based MFA authentication "The increase in businesses using multifactor authentication (MFA) is one of the biggest takeaways from this year’s report, with significant gains in usage compared to our findings in 2018," says the report. Out of all the employees utilizing MFA, 95% use a software-based multi-factor authentication tool like a mobile app, while only 4% of the total have a hardware-based MFA solution and roughly 1% use biometrics. "Given the scalability and lower cost of software-based choices, it’s unsurprising that they’re currently the most popular," adds the report. A previous study from Spiceworks shows that 62 percent of organizations around the globe currently use biometric authentication tech, with an additional 24 percent of them planning to switch to it within the next two years. "Fingerprint and face scanners are the most common types of biometric authentication used on corporate devices and services," said Spiceworks. "The results show 57 percent of organizations are using fingerprint scanning technology, while 14 percent are using face recognition technology." Data from 47,000 organizations of all sizes This year's LastPass Global Password Security Report on the state of password usage by businesses all over the world is based on aggregated and anonymized data collected from roughly 47,000 organizations that use LastPass, including info related to MFA, SSO, and mobile password management. "Though the data set represents LastPass users, given the breadth and depth of the data set, conclusions are broad enough to be applied to the business community at large," says LastPass. The highlights of the report are as follows: • Worldwide: More than half of businesses globally have employees using multi-factor authentication • Progress: IT admins take advantage of policies and integrations to increase security and streamline management, but more IT admins could be mandating the use of multi-factor authentication • Leading: The Netherlands emerges as a leader in security this year, with high usage of multi-factor authentication and the top Security Score • Mobility: The ability to access passwords on mobile significantly improves the experience – and employee adoption • Risk: Password reuse is still widespread, and contributes to lower Security Scores • Initiatives: Internationally, increased regulations appear to be a driving factor in password security awareness, especially in EMEA and APAC • Accountability: IT organizations must take responsibility for ongoing training and take proactive measures to eliminate risky password behaviors and improve company-wide Security Scores The most concerning of all the study's findings is that password reuse and sharing is still a very common practice in most organizations, with their employees reusing a password an average of 13 times. Out of all businesses that took part in this year's study, the employees of smaller orgs with fewer than 1,000 agents reused 10-14 passwords compared to only about four reused passwords in the case of larger businesses. Hardware-based MFA is the way to go To put things into perspective when talking about MFA, Director of Identity Security at Microsoft Alex Weinert said in an Azure Active Directory Identity Blog post that "your password doesn’t matter, but MFA does! Based on our studies, your account is more than 99.9% less likely to be compromised if you use MFA." This month, Weinert also added that "use of anything beyond the password significantly increases the costs for attackers, which is why the rate of compromise of accounts using any type of MFA is less than 0.1% of the general population." While Google also said in May that "simply adding a recovery phone number to your Google Account can block up to 100% of automated bots, 99% of bulk phishing attacks, and 66% of targeted attacks," the fact that "zero users that exclusively use security keys fell victim to targeted phishing during our investigation" shows just how much more effective hardware-based MFA actually is when compared to the SMS-based version for instance. Microsoft and Google also provide easy to follow procedures on how to secure your accounts, with Microsoft having a support page on the five steps to secure your identity and Google having published a blog post about the five things to do to stay safe online. Source
  7. An accidental outage was caused by LastPass yesterday by mistakenly removing the LastPass extension from the Chrome Web Store, leading to users seeing 404 errors when trying to download and install it on their devices. "The LastPass extension in the Chrome Web Store was accidentally removed by us and we are working with the Google team to restore it ASAP," LastPass Support today said in an update on Twitter. "You can still access your Vault by signing in on our website." The LastPass extension's Chrome Web Store entry is still inaccessible, with users who try to access it still being instead served with 404 errors. Error seen when accessing the LastPass extension Chrome Store entry Yesterday's LastPass issues started with users reporting that they can't download the LastPass Chrome Extension and the company acknowledging the issue on the status website. "The Network Operations Center is investigating reports that Chrome users are experiencing 404 errors when downloading the LastPass Chrome Extension," the incident's initial description reads. LastPass also advised users in a subsequent update, published one hour later, to use the Web Vault or the Mobile App, or even use LastPass with another browser of their choice until the problem is found and fixed. Four hours later, the issue behind the extension download problems was identified, with the company blaming it on the accidental removing of the LastPass Chrome Extension from Google's Chrome Web Store. While the unexpected and accidental remove led to hundreds if not thousands of reports from users, the ones who already had the extension installed were not affected by this incident. As previously mentioned, LastPass' Chrome extension is not available in the store and users are advised to access their Vault by signing in on the LastPass website. While some users feared that this outage was a sign of a security incident, LastPass Support said on Twitter that this is not the case and users wouldn't have to worry about their passwords or personal info getting leaked even if that was the case. "Please note that all encryption and decryption occurs locally on your device, not on our servers," LastPass further explained. "We don’t have access to your sensitive data." Source
  8. LastPass launched a new feature in the mobile versions of the password manager LastPass today that allows customers to recover their account under certain circumstances. Password managers help users when it comes to password use on the Internet. They provide users with tools to create and use unique passwords everywhere. The database is usually protected by a master password that the user needs to enter to decrypt the password database and access stored passwords and other information. Password managers may support other authentication options. KeePass, a popular free password manager supports key files or Windows user accounts. Users who forget the master password are in a precarious situation as it is the only option to unlock the database unless recovery options are available. LastPass Mobile Account Recovery LastPass launched a new feature called LastPass Mobile Account Recovery today that introduces an option to recovery a LastPass account in case the master password is not accepted anymore by the service. The feature is only available in the mobile LastPass applications for Android and iOS. Mobile account recovery requires a mobile device with fingerprint or Face ID authentication support. Basically, what it does is unlock an option to recover a LastPass account using the authentication method. While LastPass makes no mention how the feature works, it appears that it links biometric authentication to the LastPass account so that users of the service may reset the master password using it. It should be clear that LastPass users need to configure the feature before it becomes available. The company notes that the account recovery feature is device-specific. If you want it to be available on all devices, you need to enable it on all of them. If you are using LastPass on an Android device, you need to configure fingerprint authentication first; if you use it on an iOS device, you need to set up Face ID instead. Setup is identical afterwards: sign in to the LastPass application on the mobile device. LastPass should display a notification about the new account recovery option; if it does not, go to Menu > Settings > Security and enable the unlock feature (called Use Fingerprint to Unlock on Android, and Use Face ID on iOS), and toggle the account recovery feature afterward. Here is a video by LastPass that demonstrates the feature. If you need to reset your LastPass master password, select "forgot password" when you get to the login screen. From there, select "Recovery with Fingerprint" or "Recovery with Face ID" and authenticate using the biometric authentication option. LastPass will prompt you for a new master password that you may enter directly. You may also add a password hint. The selection of "set master password" completes the process. Closing Words LastPass recommends that customers enable the new account recovery option on their mobile devices even if they only use the desktop version of the password manager. The new option is certainly helpful in restoring an account if the master password cannot be remembered; users should take note, however, that it could also open up a new option for third-parties to gain unauthorized access to the account through coercion. Cautious users might want to stick to using the password hint option as the only resort when it comes to account recovery. Source: LastPass introduces Account Recovery on Mobile (gHacks - Martin Brinkmann)
  9. LastPass Android app tracking users, says researcher [updated] Password manager has seven trackers while rivals have far fewer (Image credit: Sharaf Maksumov/Shutterstock) LastPass does more tracking of its mobile users than any other leading password manager, says a German security researcher. And these trackers can see a lot of what you're doing in the LastPass app. Mike Kuketz wrote on his blog this past weekend that the current LastPass Android app contains seven trackers, as reported by online app-privacy analyzer Exodus. By contrast, rival password manager Dashlane's Android app has four trackers, while Keeper and Bitwarden's have two each and 1Password's has zero. Presumably, iOS apps weren't examined. Most of the seven LastPass trackers, including four very common Google ones, are for keeping tabs on performance and crashes. But at least three trackers — AppsFlyer, MixPanel and Segment — are designed to send user data to third parties, Kuketz said. "For an app that processes extremely sensitive data (passwords), this is simply an indictment," reads the Google Translate version of Kuketz's blog post. "Advertising and analytics modules simply have no place in this — it is completely out of the question to integrate them into password manager apps." (In the original, in case we got something wrong, that's "Für eine App, die äußerst sensible Daten (Passwörter) verarbeitet, ist das schlichtweg ein Armutszeugnis. Werbe- und Analytik-Module haben darin schlichtweg nichts verloren — es ist vollkommen indiskutabel, diese in Passwort-Manager-Apps zu integrieren.") LastPass' statement The Register, which earlier reported this story, reached out to LastPass. "No sensitive personally identifiable user data or vault activity could be passed through these trackers," The Register said a LastPass spokesperson replied. "These trackers collect limited aggregated statistical data about how you use LastPass which is used to help us improve and optimize the product." Phoning home with lots of data Now, as The Register pointed out, LastPass has a lot of free users — though it's set to lose many of them next month due to policy changes — so you might think it's entitled to make at least a little money on them. Kuketz thinks the LastPass trackers, which even LastPass arguably may not know much about, sent out too much information regardless. He fired up the LastPass app and watched what the trackers transmitted back to home base. According to him, the MixPanel tracker sent out the device maker, Android version, model number, device ID, LastPass account type and whether the LastPass app had biometric login and autofill enabled. AppsFlyer, Kuketz said, sent out most of that plus the name of the cellular network operator, the Android ad ID and a mysterious user ID. Some of that sounds OK, but it's been well established by other researchers that Android ad IDs can be used to physically track individuals geographically. Watching what you do Kuketz said he created a new account using the LastPass Android app, and the Segment tracker trasmitted a message ID, the time zone, the country of location, the device IP address, and what the LastPass app was doing — in this case, "onboarding password." In other words, Kuketz argues, the trackers on the LastPass app can see where you are, which language you use, what kind of LastPass account you're using and what you're doing with the app, such as adding a new password or bank-account number. The trackers can't actually view the password or bank-account number you're entering, but it's still creepy to learn they're aware of the fields into which you're entering data. "Extremely sensitive information such as access data, notes, bank accounts, etc. is stored in password managers," wrote Kuketz, according to Google Translate. "And even if the trackers do not receive any content data, they follow the user every step of the way when using LastPass." (Auf Deutsch: "In Passwort-Managern werden (äußerst) sensible Informationen wie Zugangsdaten, Notizen, Bankkonten etc. hinterlegt. Und auch wenn die Tracker keine Inhaltsdaten erhalten, so verfolgen sie den Nutzer auf Schritt und Tritt bei der Nutzung von LastPass.") It's worth noting that none of the four other password managers mentioned above seem to use AppsFlyer, MixPanel or Segment, according to Exodus. But Dashlane does use two others that seem to track user behavior, and Keeper uses one of those. Bitwarden's two trackers seem harmless, and as earlier mentioned, 1Password has no trackers at all. How to opt out of this data collection Kuketz says there's no way to opt out of this data collection within the app, and we couldn't find one either. However, the LastPass spokesperson told The Register that there is a way. "All LastPass users, regardless of browser or device, are given the option to opt-out of these analytics in their LastPass Privacy Settings, located in their account here: Account Settings > Show Advanced Settings > Privacy." In the LastPass web-browser interface, that takes you to two lines that are checked on by default: "Keep track of login and form fill history" and "Send anonymous error reporting data to help improve LastPass." When clicked on, the information bubbles next to each line say, "Maintain a history of your website logins and form fills. When disabled, History and Recent Sites will be empty on the vault and extension, respectively," and "Anonymous data is aggregated but not shared with third parties." Kuketz says that based on his findings, LastPass users should switch to other password managers. We're going to disagree with him and keep it as our top recommendation for the best password managers, though this does open our eyes a bit. Tom's Guide has reached out to LastPass as well, and we will update this story when we receive a reply. Update: LastPass responds to us A LastPass spokesperson responded to our query with this statement: "The privacy and security of our users is always a top priority at LastPass, which is why LastPass was designed with a patented zero-knowledge security model to protect sensitive customer data. No sensitive personally identifiable user data could be passed through these trackers. These trackers are used for a limited purpose — to collect aggregated statistical data about how LastPass is used to help us improve and optimize the product to deliver the best user experience. We are continuously reviewing our existing processes to ensure we are prioritizing our customers' privacy and security." Source: LastPass Android app tracking users, says researcher [updated]
  10. LastPass Free to force users to choose between mobile, desktop Starting next month, LastPass will no longer allow a free account to be used on multiple types of devices (computers and mobile) at the same time. LastPass is a password manager that allows you to synchronize and auto-fill your login credentials throughout multiple platforms, including Windows, iOS, Android, and almost all web browsers. While LastPass offers premium subscriptions with additional features, they also provide a Free subscription with "password management with access on all your devices for free." The Free service is changing dramatically on March 16th, 2021, when LastPass will restrict free accounts to either a 'Computer' or 'Mobile' device platform simultaneously. For example, LastPass Free users will be able to use the service on their Android and iOS mobile devices simultaneously but not on computers or vice-versa. "We’re making changes to how LastPass Free users access LastPass across device types. LastPass offers access across two device types - Computers (including all browsers running on desktops and laptops) or Mobile Devices (including mobile phones, smart watches, and tablets). "Starting March 16, 2021, LastPass Free will only include access on unlimited devices of one type," announced LastPass in a support bulletin. LastPass Free will automatically select the designated platform type based on the device you first log in on and after March 16th. If you login in with your phone, LastPass will automatically set your active device type to 'Mobile.' While LastPass Free users will not be able to use their devices on a different category of devices, they can use it on unlimited devices in the same category. To prevent users from getting stuck on an unwanted platform, LastPass provides users three opportunities to change their active device type. After the third change, users will be stuck on that platform unless they upgrade to a LastPass Premium or Families account. In addition to these new limitations, Lastpass Free users will no longer receive support via email and will only have access to the support center and the LastPass forums. Source: LastPass Free to force users to choose between mobile, desktop
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